examples from bob gates who was an outstanding secretary of defense for president bush and president obama. he gave a brilliant speech a couple years ago, and here are two of nuggets. secretary gates, we have more mill tear personnel one carrier battle group, united states navy, than we have american diplomats all over the world. here's another, if that doesn't convince you. we have more members of the armed forces marching bands of the navy, air force, army, marines -- [laughter] true fact, than american diplomats. >> this weekend on c-span, nicholas burns on the history of u.s. diplomatic efforts in the mideast and his call for a return to diplomacy, today at 10 a.m. eastern. on c-span2's booktv, how would you define the american dream? lawrence samuel later at 7:30, and on c-span3's american history tv, why change the story when the truth is more exciting? be ray rafael on true tales of the founding fathers sunday at noon eastern. >> next on booktv, from the 2013 be harlem book fair, a discussion on the church and political activism. [applause] >> good evening, everyone. thank you, vale